Polygamy is rife, though unofficial, in France, within the west african community. When questioned on the radio about those 10 children families in Paris suburbs, an immigrant association representative replied : who we call our wives you call your mistresses.
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Polygamy in Canada: Our dirty little secret?
by happysunshine ini thought this was interesting.. .
polygamy in canada: our dirty little secret?.
if there are thousands of people illegally practising polygamy in canada and the united states, why is our biggest battle for human rights happening overseas?.
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The sower can't be Jesus
by Bonnie_Clyde in14. who is this sower?
some in christendom believe that this refers to jesus himself.
but how could it be said that jesus sleeps and does not know how the seed grows?
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Sir82
I think that the 2 narratives in Mark 4 : 26 and Mat. 13 : 36 are referring to the same parable about the wheat and the weeds. In both gospels, the account is situated between the parable about the sowing in the rocky soil, etc. and the parable about the mustard grain.
Part of de discrepancies can be explained by the fact that Mark's narrative is more concise. For example, it says that the sower sleeps, when Matthew reads "while the men were sleeping". You may remember that the society teaches that Solomon building the temple means in fact that he got the temple built by his workers. The same reasoning could be used here but the WTS just forgets to apply it because differenciating the 2 accounts suits their purpose, which is assimilation of the sowers in the first and the second parable in Mark's, and only Mark's account, the one where we don't read that the sower is the son of man, and leaving aside Matthew's parallel account. dishonest approach, we'll all agree.
Now, trying to answer Bonnie's question, we notice that in 21 and 28 sept study articles, they apply right now events which the Bible says will occur at the conclusion of the system of things, namely, harvesting in the wheat/weeds parable (which they say represents those who study with the JWs coming to chistian maturity) and the sorting out of fish, which they say is operated now, whereas Matthew says that it is performed by angels who throw the wicked in the fiery furnace.
My assumption is that the WTS holds that view for the reason that they want to get JWs accustomed to the idea that Armaggedon is not for tomorrow morning and not even for the day after tomorrow, and the society gradually adopts a long term perpective which will justify her being still around in 50 years from now, as a mainstream religion. In addition, this stand allows R&F JWs to have the satisfaction of seing right here and now the result of their preaching work : harvesting and selection of fish. Did anyone say manipulation ?
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The French Connection continues...
by THE GLADIATOR injust returned from a 3 day sojourn to france with my older abrother.
the overnight ferry pushed on through a sea of snoring to arrive on time in le havre.
i drove as my stoic brother examined his seat belt and air bag and quietly contemplated the possibility of an afterlife.
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I ordered escargots but instead they bought snails
were you expecting slugs ?
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aligot ripounsous
Thanks, StAnn, corrected
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I must admit that elders have not dared (or bothered) having a conversation with me for more than one year by now, about the fact that I haven't reported any preaching nor attended BS and midweek meetings. They just seeem to be happy to see me turning up at sunday meeting. Even last sunday, after I publicly commented at the WT study that we can readily understand that the society would until now hold the view that the sower is Jesus, because that's what the gospels plainly read, not even one of them did say to me at the end of the meeting that this view is now apostate. I gather that, either they apply Jude's word "while you hate even the inner garment that has been stained by the flesh" or, more probably, they just couldn't care less.
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Where have WTS clamed to NEVER have spoken in Jehovahs name?
by still_in74 inso i pulled this article from cd rom as this was pdf'd on another thread by atlantis.
*** w79 9/1 pp.
29-30 pars.
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TheWatchtower,
the official journal of Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said: "We have not the gift of prophecy." (January 1883, page 425).Now, the WTS has taught us at length that a prophet doesn't have to utter prophecies, he is God's representative, as it was repeated in last week WT study article :
" Jehovah assured Ezekiel that when the judgments he proclaimed came true, the rebellious house of Israel would" certainly know also that a prophet himself happened to be in the midst of them." (Ezek. 2:5) Similarly, when God carries out his judgments against the present system of things, people will be forced to recognize that the message Jehovah's Witnesses preached in public places and from house to house actually originated with the one true God, Jehovah, and that the Witnesses really did serve as his representatives"
Like the bat saying Look at my head I'm a mouse, look at my wings I'm a bird.
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I am loosing interest in most things JW or XJW!
by AK - Jeff ini think that simon's announcement that this venue was closing was the catalyst.
i looked around the other forums and realized i just don't need them anymore.
i have logged in here probably 10% of my former time since the announcement, first to do the 'admin' stuff that was happening immediately following - but now usually only once a day, maybe 10 minutes, and can't even find much of interest while i do that.
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Not that I've been such an important poster on JWD but I feel I've said about all that I had to say and I believe I'm fading from XJWs apace with from JWs.
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ARMAGEDDON IS HERE
by DoomVoyager infor real this time, i promise!.
you may have heard of the collapse of several large us financial institutions this morning.
the fact that this event coincides with a major natural disaster hitting the us is, according to my parents, 100% conclusive proof that armaggedon has in fact begun.
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Let's all turn our bibles to Revelation 14:20.
"And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs."
Since we'll all be swimming in blood up to our necks, wearing red clothing will obviously be practical. Wait a minute... won't all the blood just drain into the giant cravasses in the ground? And if not then wouldn't all the evil apostates just be able to swim up out of the cracks?
DoomVoyager, you just forgot the antitypical fulfilment of that prophecy, which the FDS gave us in due time, in 1920 if memory serves me well :
" Revelation 14:20 ... reads: "And the wine press was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the wine press as high up as the bridles of the horses, for a distance of a thousand six hundred furlongs." "By the space of a thousand and (six)TWO hundred furlongs--
This can not be interpreted to refer to the 2100 mile battle line
of the world war. A Furlong or stadium is not a mile and this
is without the city whereas the battle line is within the city.
See Rotherham's translation. A stadium is 606 three fourths
English ft; 1200 stadii are, mi...................................................................................137.9 miThe work on this volume was done in Scranton, Pa. As fast as
it was completed it was sent to the Bethel. half of the work
was done at an average distance of 5 blocks from the Lackawanna
station, and the other half at a distance of 25 blocks. Blocks
in Scranton are 10 to the mile. Hence the average distance to the
station is 15 blocks, or .................................................................................................1.5 mi
The mileage from Scranton to Hoboken Terminal is shown in time
tables as 143.8 and this is the mileage charged to passengers,
but in 1911, at an expense of $12,000,000, the Lackawanna Railroad
completed its famous cut-off, saving 11 miles of the distance.
From the day the cut-off was completed the trainmen have been
allowed 11 miles less than the time table shows, or a net
distance of ................................................................................................................132.8 mi.
Hoboken Ferry to Barclay Street Ferry, New York, is .............................................2.0 mi
Barclay Street Ferry to Fulton Ferry, New York, is 4,800 feet or ............................0.9 mi
Fulton Ferry, New York, to Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn, is 2,000 feet or .......................0.4 mi
Fulton Ferry, Brooklyn, to Bethel, is 1,485 feet or ....................................................0.3 mi
Shortest distance from place where the winepress was trodden
by the Feet Members of the Lord, Whose guidance and help alone
made this volume possible.
(John 6:60,61; Matt 20:11) .......................................................................................137.9 mi" -
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Dog to its Vomit
by Sparkplug ini know as a jw growing up, i would hear so much about how if you were of the"world" and came out of it...that you were like a dog returning to its vomit.
the other day, i heard of a friend of mine that went back to the borg.
actually over the past few months, i have heard of a few.
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Spark,
I understand this friend was a real friend so, when she decided to go back to the congregation, for family related reasons, did she tell you that she wouldn't speak to you anymore ? If not, you can still exchange ideas and opinions with her and it could be enriching for both of you, in fact she may need an independent minded friend to help her sort her thoughts out.
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i don't care about what you have to say
by drew sagan inthis little rant is pointed towards a particular somebody who has found it necessary to blanket all of the jwd users here with generic solicitations for their website and newsletter.
usually i let this kind of stuff go but this particular individual imo is quite crass in their style and delivery in supposedly 'exposing' the watchtower.
as such i want to state on the record that i don't care about what you have to say, your methods are stupid.
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I prefer the orginal one, she 'd jump the broomstick and cooked somptuous jambalayas.